CL275: The Productive Writer

The Productive Writer

Nina Amir is an Amazon bestselling author of works including How to Blog a Book, The Author Training Manual and Creative Visualization for Writers. She is known as the Inspiration to Creation Coach because she helps writers, bloggers and other creative people combine their passion and purpose so they become high performers and Achieve More Inspired Results.

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James Taylor interviews Nina Amir and they talk about Being productive Writer vs being prolific

In this episode, we cover:

  • Being productive vs being prolific
  • The psychology of writing
  • How to finish your book

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James Taylor
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Hey, there is James Taylor and I'm delighted to welcome Nina Amir. Nina is an Amazon best selling author of works, including how to blog, a book, the author training, manual and creative visualization for writers. She is known as the inspiration to creation coach because she helps writers, bloggers and other creative people combine their passion and purpose so they become high performers and achieve more inspired results. my great pleasure to have Nina with us today. So welcome, Nina.

Nina Amir
Thank you so much, James. It's my honor, and I'm really excited

James Taylor
to share with everyone what's happened. In your world just now,

Nina Amir
just now while I'm working on a new book and working with a bunch of writers who are wanting to author change, and so I'm just excited to be making a positive meaningful difference and

James Taylor
helping writers. So take us back, how did you get into this world of, of working with authors and bloggers and helping them really become prolific? Because that's the thing that you're really known for?

Nina Amir
Yes. So, you know, in high school, I thought I wanted to be a novelist, loved reading novels. And I went to my mother and said, You know, I think this is what I want to do for a living, I'm going to be a novelist. And she was very practical and said to me, you know, unless you're a really great writer, you're not going to make a living as a novelist. So I took that to mean maybe I wasn't that good a writer when she was just being practical. But what that did was it sent me down the path to journalism and I took a course in magazine journalism and I ended up going to school and getting a degree magazine journalism. And that put me in the world of publishing, right? So different type of publishing the books, but still publishing. And I had a professor who told me that if I could write a magazine article, I could write a book, because a nonfiction book was just a series of articles all on the same topic. So I thought, okay, I can do that. Then I was approached by someone that well, I went to work, I was editing magazines and writing for magazines. And that was my full time gig. And somebody asked me if I could edit a book for them. And it was a nonfiction book. And I remembered when my professor said, and I thought, well, I've been editing magazines. I can write magazine articles. Why couldn't I edit a nonfiction book? And I did. And so I had a couple books I did I edited that were quite successful and kept doing a little bit of editing, kept writing, started blogging, all these things and then suddenly thought, you know, why don't I write a book for these ideas? Maybe I should write a book. And that set me on a path to learn how to succeed as an author. And I got involved with the San Francisco writers conference and just kept doing everything I could to learn how I could succeed. But I started sharing that on my blog, and later created a month, something kind of like NaNoWriMo but for nonfiction writers to write a book in 30 days and just it just kind of snowball James into me knowing a lot about how to get published. But underlying all that was also this desire to write books that were spiritual and related to personal growth and personal development. And so as you know, I'm a high performance coach as well. And so, that's now been woven in to the work I do with writers, you know, a sort of a little bit of a spiritual flair, but more than that, you know, really, how do I get writers out of their own way. And so that's really how I got where I am now.

James Taylor
Now. This is the That the artists way that Julia Cameron book she talks about this idea of, of shadow artists that people that they can have holding back, they can get involved in the industry in one way or the other. Like they say the painter, they get to become an art dealer, for example, or a musician. Instead of becoming a musician, they become a sound engineer, they kind of get involved in it, but they can sit back and often is, is a lot of people just gonna stay in that place that journey then to actually going you know, the, I think there's a movie called 20 feet from stardom going to the front of the stage that 20 feet is one of the most difficult so tell us that that journey that you went through from being an editor so you already writing obviously all the time in journalism, you were then starting edit people's books, you were getting really well known and getting good at that, that that journey to becoming a published author in your own right in that type of way. What was going on in your mind that the psychology of that at that stage?

Nina Amir
Yeah, first I approached it with a whole lot of confidence, feeling like okay, I have an idea and I'm just Gonna go forth and do this right. And I very quickly had a setback, because I sent out my first book proposal. And I was really set on having a, a big time agent in New York, right? And going with a big publishing house and all those dreams we all have, right. And I got a call from a New York literary agent right away. Who said, I love your book. Yeah, I like the title. I like the the writings. Awesome. You did an awesome proposal. Everything's great. And then came that big word, but but you don't have a platform. And I'm sure you have lots of people talking about platform. But in those days, this was a new term. And so she explained, nobody knows who you are. So you better just go to a small publishing house in the meantime. And that to make a very long story short while I had some conversations with publishers and things I didn't get published. I then had a sequence of literary agents as well and didn't get published. And so I realized that this was much harder than it looked, at least from a traditional publishing standpoint, there were a lot of requirements that went beyond writing well, and I knew I could write, and I knew my ideas were good. And so I had to then fight with my own demons about you know, do I really want to build platform, I worked for about eight years on building platform and trying to get published and really thought I would quit. And I was like, this is, you know, this is just too hard. I worked all this time, still no deal. And I had to get to the point where I said, You know, I refuse I refuse to quit. I know that I have something to offer. And I will just embrace everything it takes to achieve the goal of getting a book out there that will impact people in a in a positive way. And when I changed my mindset to One of you know, I will embrace it all because it all gets me where I want to go. Four years later and half the time I held my first book in my hands, my first traditionally published book. So I really had to get out of my own way and say, you know, I'm not doing this because I have to do it. Like, I'm not building platform or blogging because I have to do it, I'm doing it because it gets me where I want to go. And that was a big change in mindset. As well as just getting back to a place of confidence of you know, okay, so just because it hasn't happened, doesn't mean it's not gonna happen. And I have to just keep telling myself that I have something important to say, and I'm going to say it

James Taylor
I knew you'd be able to see in that world of journalism, so you weren't going into it like a baby where you just kind of you didn't know what was happening in terms of the publishing you obviously you came from publishing obviously there was a slightly different obviously with journalism and, and and more kind of traditional kind of book style publishing But you knew you know a lot about the industry. And then for you, you kind of took that initial knock there on your confidence you can add to start with kind of rebuilding whether any mentors or guys, there's I mean, this is the thing that you can do today you can act as a guide for those for those writers that are going on that journey. Did you have someone when you were going on that journey?

Nina Amir
Well, I had, as I said, I was involved with a San Francisco writers conference. And actually, via that conference, I, I was mentored a fair amount by the man who started that conference, Michael Larsen. Some people may know him, he has a bunch of books out there, how to write a book proposal and how to find an agent or something like that. Anyway, he mentored me quite a bit and kept encouraging me and a lot of my education in the book publishing world came from that conference and I met people who I later for many years, for 30 days in November, I had blog posts that were primarily guest posts from people and so I would ask them to write about topics I wanted to learn about. So I had mentors from a lot of areas because I was actually reaching out and saying, will you write about this and so I can learn and so my audience can learn. But I would say that the San Francisco writers conference was huge for me. And, and that was where I made the contacts with people. And I learned I mean, I met people like the late Dan pointer and was able to have conversations with him. And so that's I really recommend that to people to Yes, find a mentor and go where you can learn and get supported because that's, that's where you're going to stay inspired. And when we, when we get discouraged, we lack inspiration, and we want to stay inspired. And

James Taylor
I think that the right thing obviously is quite solitary activity for love. So having that sense of being part of a community of other people that are just as crazy as you doing this thing that they love, is quite affirming as well. Especially if you know if you get people in there that That that have more experience a little bit further along the road, they can, they can act as that guide. And so you you kind of act as that role now you have the will kind of get into the kind of the work that you do, really as a, as a writing coach, and a mentor. And you talk in your work about high performance and about being productive and prolific as a writer. So why is that important when we think of like Harper Lee, for example, who is not that not prolific in that sense, but why is being being a productive and prolific author important today in the environment that we're in.

Nina Amir
So today, there are a lot of books out there, right, lots of people trying to get noticed. And if you're not producing work on a regular basis, you're going to fall by the wayside. And I can tell you in my own experience, so the last two years I haven't published as much I haven't had a new traditional, traditionally published book come out and I can watch as My book sales and I'll drop, okay, so it's really important to stay in front of your audience on a regular basis. And there are lots of ways to do that, for instance, blogging, you can do that on social media. But a productive writer is somebody who sits down every day and writes, or five days a week, or whatever it is, and actually produces work, right? Not somebody who's dabbling. It's somebody who actually is, is producing work, which then they can publish. So to me, productivity is sitting down on a regular basis and producing something usable. That doesn't mean it doesn't need to be edited or revised. But something usable, we have a goal in mind and we're moving towards it in a consistent fashion. And prolific to me is not just producing a lot of work, but actually getting it in the hands of your readers. So you you want to be producing something that can be published and you are publishing and getting it out there. When you're doing that on a regular basis, you're going to build platform no matter what you're going to have more and more readers who want to follow you, right and want to read your work. And so they'll read one book, and they'll go to your Amazon page or whatever. And they'll see that you have 10 other books, and they're going to begin to buy those books too. And so you know, we call this the long tail effect, right? So you know, you could have one book that hits after you know, maybe it's your 15th book, but because it generates a bigger audience, or more visibility, people begin to grab by the other books too. And so all your book sales will, will increase. So to me, even if you're putting ebooks in between, you know, short ebooks in between longer ebooks or printed books, whether you're self publishing or traditionally publishing, the more prolific you are, the higher likelihood of you succeeding

James Taylor
and Is this something is this something obviously there in the psychology of people like your voice, there's something about your voice Is your view of the world that they want to find out more. But I also guess that the way the algorithms work and things like Amazon, for example, you know, if you enjoyed this, then you'll enjoy this and that's gonna go then go able people to go deeper into your catalogue.

Nina Amir
Yes, but, but I'm going to go back to that has all true, but I'm going to go back to the psychology of it. When you don't write consistently. You lose. It's a you lose steam, right? You you become disconnected from your work. And over time, you get discouraged and frustrated. You lose your confidence in your ability to write consistently. I mean, think about it writers, right? However, the majority of writers talk about writing and don't write

James Taylor
this is that expression. I think it was Austin kleon said, a lot of people want to be the man without doing the verb.

Nina Amir
Exactly. Right. Yeah, they want to be a writer, but they're not writing. So the thing is that more the more that happens. And the more you're stuck there, because it just becomes more discouraging more frustrating. You get negative self talk going on, you know, you know, what were you thinking you said you were gonna write you didn't write, you're so stupid you never follow through and everything, you know on anything. And it's a it's a downward spiral from there. But when you begin to write on a consistent basis, suddenly you're a writer. I had a client, she came to me, I told her, I said, write for 15 minutes a day, that's all just 15 minutes a day. And she came back, like two weeks later and said, Well, I didn't just write 15 minutes, of course, I wrote 30 minutes. And then I wrote 45. And guess what, I suddenly see myself as a writer. And her confidence level went way up. And she became very consistent because she could see how it was building. And so I think that's the other issue about being productive and prolific is that when we are that, it allows us to be more so it's a

James Taylor
it's a when someone changes Self images, I've seen people, friends of mine who have become really into running or cycling. And they it's almost like part of their identity. I'm a runner, I'm a cyclist. They, they, they, they really inhabit that word because they're making a consistent ritual or process.

Nina Amir
Yes, exactly. Right. And I can tell you from my own experience, you know, I do way more than write. I mean, I blog consistently, of course, and so I'm always writing and I'm always writing promotional emails, and you know, all that kind of thing. I'm not always working on a book, or in the last few years, I wasn't. So I'd be writing a book when I had a book to write. And I was very involved and all the promotion of my courses and my membership sites and coaching and all of these things. And this year, I said to myself, you know what happened to Nina, the writer, like the person who that was the primary thing she did. And it's very easy to just let other things get in the way and lose that identity and we really have to cultivate debate, that identity, which is happening, you know, up here, but also in the world, it's the action of writing that makes us the writer. And then we believe it. There was a, you mentioned that I was gonna say there was a there was a teacher I had on the metaphysical level. That was he taught metaphysics and, and he once said, that, that you you really have to make an affirmation of action. So we talk a lot about affirmations and self talk, but until you do it, you take make an affirmation of action over and over and over again, repeating it just like an affirmation, you would tell yourself it's not till you do that, that that the brain gets it that this is who you are and what you do.

James Taylor
You spend up to my productivity, I'm going to eat you one of the other piece I know you speak about a lot you speak a number of keys we're going to be covering but one of them is purpose and the purpose of why you're writing the purpose of what this particular thing Is that your writing just now what the purpose of that is? When you go into, especially as a nonfiction writer, do you have to get really clear at the start what your purpose is for writing? Or is it something that you just gradually evolve you discover as you as you just kind of do the ritual of writing.

Nina Amir
So there are a lot of people who think that purpose is going to, you know, is going to be something that just, you know, either they should know, or they have to find it, or it's going to drop on their head, and suddenly they'll understand what they're meant to do in this lifetime. There are people who do know that this is what I'm meant to do in this lifetime. There are other people who can choose it. If you don't know your purpose. You can choose one, you can say, Okay, I, I want to write a book that will well help eliminate school shootings, right? Could be anything, but you can choose that that is my purpose. It's meaningful to me, and this is what I want to do. Is it going to be your life's purpose? Maybe, maybe not. But I think we can choose a purpose isn't important. For a writer to have a purpose, yes. Because I think when you have a purpose, you can then go from that act. That idea of this is, this is my intention, this is what I want to do this is the impact I want to have to an actual mission. Mission being the goal that comes out of that purpose. Right. So I want to eliminate the number of kids affected by school shootings. And my mission is to write a book, and to do other actions in the world that will reduce school shootings by 50% in the next five years, so that, you know, 50% less children are are affected, right. So now we have a mission, and our book is going to align with that mission. It's going to be one one aspect of accomplishing it. So you know, we're talking about nonfiction here. So either there are lots of types of nonfiction, there's activism type books like that. There could be just a book on you know, trying to, you know, a self help book or something. Spiritual book where we're, you know, trying to impact one person. But still, we have to know why we're doing that our purpose really comes out of our big Why Why am I doing it? Why is it meaningful to me? What's my emotional connection to this? And then there's the mission, which is bigger. Okay, so that's what I want to accomplish, and how am I going to do it? Right? Does that make sense?

James Taylor
No, absolutely. And so, we've spoken there about this idea of, of purpose. We've spoken about the the, almost like the psychology and you say some of the things that you've reflect on things that you're when you work with clients that know that they come to you with as well. And there's some other than the bit like the productivity piece goes on from there as well. You mentioned like just that very simple one of the 15 minutes, just being seen who's sitting down there, 15 minutes kind of writing that. For those people who are just, they're just struggling. Maybe not necessary to, to, to write but to to finish a piece. Let's say if they're working on on a book and they, they're like, Okay, I get into this thing and then I'm suddenly this bright shiny thing is over there. And then I'm gonna go over that thing. And I'm going to this other bright shiny thing is what advice you give in terms of that pretty sure, I guess it links to the productivity and the being prolific as well, how to stay on track with your writing to be able to complete things,

Nina Amir
right. And this is gonna go back to the P of purpose as well. Because really, what, when you understand your purpose, you are going to fairly naturally figure out who you're writing for. So we know we're always here to write for your audience, right? You really have to get clear on that who is going to be impacted the most by my book. And when somebody isn't writing, or they're not completing, I always go back to this because when you can get a picture of the person who's going to be impacted the most by your book. You can begin to think through and this is how I would advise somebody is think through to this person, right? What is the? What is your goal for them with your book? What is it that you want to accomplish for them, right? How do you want to impact them? And then you can say, Well, if I don't write my book, what? How will they remain struggling? Like what are their pain points that if I don't give them a book that eases that pain, what will happen? And that begins to generate some necessity, right feeling of necessity, I better get this book out because there are people struggling and suffering. And it's my job to alleviate that. So as an example, I had a writer who he had been writing, but he wasn't finishing and he would start he would stop and life would get in the way, which is what typically, you know, I hear all the time life got in the way so I didn't write this week. And I asked him, I said, Who are you writing for? He was writing a book for fathers about parenting. And I said, Okay, so the Father's will be impacted by your book. And he said, Yes. I said, Okay, and who else will be impacted? And he thought for a moment, and then he said, the children, ultimately the children will be impacted because they will have fathers who do a better job of parenting them. And I said, Okay, so how long do you want to let those kids wait to have better fathers? Because every day that goes by, they might have fathers who are not parenting them as well as they could? Well, that was the fire under his butt, right? Because Because now suddenly, he had necessity and he also had urgency. Right, there was a need for his book. He knew that already. But now he really could see who would be impacted by this book. And if he didn't write it, they were going to suffer. And so now there was an urgency to get it done. So that's usually where I go with this guy. You're not writing or you're not finishing, create some urgency and some necessity by really getting in touch with who you're writing for, and how you are letting them down. I love

James Taylor
that because also it can work to, to that that part of a lot of people's minds off, you're more alert to the negative consequences of something in the positive consequences. Although you still think you would love it to be we'd be different, but sometimes that that is just the way that the mind works is looking for the threats and whatnot. And so, so you're kind of using that that part of the brain that's just trying to get to go down that way and kind of harnessing it for some, some good there, and war, but we talk about the physiology and this is one of the things you work with people on as well. And just managing managing energy levels, for example, you know, this is a, we're in a kind of marathon, I guess as as writers, what what advice would you give in terms of, you know, we think about what we do and like I'm just now sitting, maybe sitting for long periods of time. So there's that part physiology these might just general energy levels, mental energy, physical energy, what advice you you give around this area?

Nina Amir
Yeah. So this is something that is rarely talked about and writing and publishing circles. And it's enormously important for us to not only Master Master our psychology, but to master our physiology. Right. So yeah, if you, you have different kinds of energy that you bring to your computer every day. You have emotional energy, you could be sad, you could be happy, you could feel great, you know, emotionally or you could feel really lousy emotionally. You have mental energy. Are you clear and focused? Or are you distracted? Right? And then you have actual physical energy. Do you feel tired or do you feel you know, energized and ready to go? If you show up at the desk with low energy and any, you know, mental, physical, emotional energy that's low, you're gonna have a hard time being productive. You really are. You're going to just struggle you're going to be sitting got, you know, flipping over to Facebook, you're going to be looking for another cup of coffee, you're going to do all kinds of things. But right. And if you do, right, it's going to be very slow and laborious. If, however, you come to the desk with high energy, emotional, physical and mental energy that are that is high, you're going to be way more productive. So what does that mean you have to do, you have to judge whether your emotional energy is, is where it needs to be. So if you're worried about something or you're sad, or whatever, you're going to need to do something to shift that. The best way to shift that is to focus on something positive, or to move your body because we know that when we exercise, we release endorphins and all those things that make us feel better, right? So we don't want to focus on what's making us feel badly. And we want to move our body so that we feel better, right? Also, when you move your body you're going to raise your physical energy. Now do you have to go out for a run? No. You got to Do breathing, right do very deep, forceful breathing for 30 seconds and you're going to energize your body and your brain because your brain needs oxygen. And we tend to sit at that desk and not breathe. You could drink some water, which is also going to get your brain functioning better. Right? So and then as you do something like breathing, you actually focus your mind. So as you do, you know, you could go do some yoga moves, it doesn't matter, but do something where you get your breath moving and your body moving. And that physical energy is going to focus your brain and also give you the energy to work. Most people will say, you know, I'm writing after work and I'm tired and so I don't do it. You can actually do breathing exercises and regenerate yourself so that you have the energy. So we have to show up at the at the desk at the computer with good energy in General if we want to be productive

James Taylor
and those exercises whether it's breathing or yoga or just going out for for a walk, I guess it also brings you back into your your body when your mind has been in other places and it brings you back to being present rather than looking back or think I've got all these things in future I am gonna get that done. So it brings you into that place that that more present place when you can go into your own you can go into your own world and you can you can you can really kind of punch those depths of you know, your creative potential which is difficult when you've got Facebook pings or various things get a guy going all the time. And I know we're gonna let's call it kind of final questions. I would love to know from you. Are there any tools or we actually talk about Facebook guys there but are there any tools or apps that you find actually can be useful for writers and and bearing in mind, you know, old tools have their pluses and minuses but there any ones that you find online tools or apps or things to help the writing process, make it just a bit more enjoyable or easier. Or maybe even in the researching process.

Nina Amir
Yeah, I like focus at will. So there's a small fee to it. But focus at will gives you the ability to choose the type of music you like. That is actually it trains the brain to be more focused. And so you get more done because your brain waves are sinking up, and it's helping you focus. It also will track your productivity for you. So it'll you know, you can actually it'll ask you how productive were you during this period. So, I like to set it for 50 minutes because in high performance, we know that at about 50 minutes, our productivity drops, because we you know, are we just we kind of get burned out a little bit and so we need to, to rejuvenate a bit. So at 15 minutes, I like to stop, move my body a little bit, get a drink of water, do some breathing and then start Again, a lot of people think that you're going to get out of the flow, you won't get out of the flow, you're actually going to come back refreshed and ready to keep going. So focus a will is one of my favorites. And if you don't want to pay for it, you can always use Spotify and it has a focus station that you can go to. And it's the same idea

James Taylor
I love I love that I use focus it well as well. And I noticed you mentioned 15 minutes on the I have a same thing I put on my watch buzzes me every, every 15 minutes just to remind me to get off my button a little bit to kind of get that every week you can get energy and what about if you and we're going to be talking just we're gonna have some links to your books here as well. But if you were to recommend a book by another author, it could be on the craft of writing or the or the or the mindset or even the marketing side of writing. What would that book be?

Nina Amir
I can't think of one on the like the mindset of writing. I usually recommend Brendon Burchard high performance habits just because I actually think the problem is not In learning to write or to, you know, I just think the problem lies in our personal development. And so when you can learn the habits of high performers, you're going to become more productive. And even if you're learning the craft of writing, it's the same idea. You really need to, to become a high performer so that you master the skills and then you'll master the writing, right? Yeah, move through, you know, you'll be clearer. So you'll have clarity, you're going to have more energy, you're going to be more courageous and bold about your writing, you're going to be more productive. And you're also going to be more of an influencer. Because you're going to, you're going to put all that together and have more self confidence. And you're going to be out there telling stories and sharing your work and people are going to start to listen to you. So I just think that would be the best book, I could recommend this high performance habit.

James Taylor
And obviously, Brendon really lives that as always a great example of someone that is very prolific and it's not just of books, but online courses, and then lots of other things as well. I'd love to know, if we imagined someone someone like yourself is around today, who is maybe a journalist or the other blogger, they can have a cup reporter working somewhere or they're doing writing but they really want to be an author and do write their kind of nonfiction work, write those books, but they have no contacts. No one knows who they are. What advice would you give them at this stage? Knowing all the you know, you know, both about the craft and about obviously, the business side of writing? What advice would you give them today in terms of getting getting in getting starting making that journey?

Nina Amir
Well, one is to get involved with something like a conference to just get an education or, you know, get involved to the you know, they're not just me, but there are other people who have membership sites and things like that for nonfiction writers, you know, so join something where you're with other people. So a little plug, you know, I have the nonfiction writers University, so something like that go there to a conference. Are there other organizations. The other thing I would say which is more tactical, is I would say blog. Because to me the blog is the foundation of your platform building. So if you want to get out there and get known, which is I think what you're asking how do we actually get started and get out there, you need to begin to develop a body of work and practice your craft and develop voice. And a blog is an awesome place to do that, and as a nonfiction writer to become an authority on your topic. And once you have a blog post, you can share it on social media, people are saying, Well, what do I share on social media, you share your blog posts, share your expertise with people, and that will go a long, long way. And I can tell you that I wasn't an expert on blogging books until I started a blog called How to blog a book. And five months later, I had number one Google status, you know, when you do a search, and people were contacting me, you know, for to speak and to appear and all of that and that's how I got the book deal. So I think that you need to establish yourself as expert or authority, if you're a nonfiction writer, and a blogger is an awesome way to do it, and plus, you're going to impact way more people from your blog, then you likely will with a book, even though I encourage everyone to write a book, because it's a great way to have impact and to be an authority and expert. But I get more comments daily from my blog posts than I do from the books I sell. And, you know, in the world of publishing today, you know, the average book sells only 250 copies per year. So a blog, you could have 250 readers a month or more, and be impacting a whole lot of people and developing a platform and creating the foundation for your publishing career.

James Taylor
Fantastic. And now if we're going to have a link here as well, you have a really cool productivity quiz for writers and we're going to have a link here so people can go on that. So obviously a quiz was identifying some of those things we've been speaking about today in this conversation. We're gonna have a link here below, people can click on that go through to that, that that Productivity quiz if people want to learn about you mentioned your membership I know you have you have other products and programs well where's the best place to go and learn about that and we'll also have a link to that here as well

Nina Amir
yeah, they can just go to Nina Amir comm so and i n a m er calm Everything is there they can click through and around and they'll find it the other place they might want to go James is to my blog that is specifically for nonfiction writers. And it is called write nonfiction now calm

James Taylor
fantastic mobile gonna have all those links here as well, to kind of go check out that quiz. Check out all the programs and products you have as well and also that blog and get some get some ideas get your creative juices going. Nina thank you so much for coming on today. Sharing a little bit about your own personal journey and some giving some great advice for any of those people that are on their their writing journey as well. I wish you all the best with your your next book we're gonna be working on

Nina Amir
Thank you very much. Thanks for having me on. It was honor as I said and good luck.

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